Orange And Brown Talk Podcast

It’s a Monday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe. The Browns officially kick off their offseason program on Tuesday and Mary Kay and Dan dive into the biggest storylines surrounding the team as they head back to the facility. The primary focus of this episode is the highly anticipated quarterback battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders. Answering questions from our Football Insider subscribers, the duo explores some fascinating thought exercises: What happens if Watson returns to his Pro Bowl form, and would it even be financially possible for the Browns to extend his contract? On the flip side, what would it mean for the franchise if Shedeur Sanders wins the starting job, and how will opposing defensive coordinators game plan for him now that there is tape out there? They discuss Todd Monken's evaluation of the offense and why the team desperately needs to add at least two more premier playmakers. Finally, the talk shifts to th

On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe wrap up the week by looking back at the key takeaways from the NFL owners meeting and gearing up for the start of the offseason program in Berea next week. First, Mary Kay and Dan dive into Andrew Berry's intriguing comments regarding the team's No. 6 overall draft pick. Will the Browns trade back to gather more draft capital for next year, or could a surprise trade-up be in the works? They break down the likelihood of moving the pick and what scenarios could impact that ultimate decision. Then, the focus shifts to the evolving quarterback competition. With Todd Monken installing his offense, they discuss how mobility will factor into the looming battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders. They also examine the importance of Watson getting a head start by building chemistry with wide receivers like Jerry Jeudy down in Florida. Finally, they cover why nobody should write off Dillon Gabriel, who will look to us

Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe is joined by Lance Reisland and Tim Bielik for their latest dive into their favorite prospects. After sharing their dueling big boards last week, Lance and Tim are back to conduct a "My Guys" Draft. They each select five prospects they are absolutely pounding the table for the Browns to pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. Forget typical draft constraints, this show is about the tape and the players our analysts love. Tim targets aggressive defenders like Indiana corner D’Angelo Ponds and explains why analytics point to certain wide receivers thriving against zone coverage. Lance puts on his coaching hat to highlight violent trench warriors like Georgia Tech's Keylan Rutledge. The guys also rapid-fire their favorite honorable mentions to keep an eye on during Day 3 and undrafted free agency. Watch the full episode and follow along with the live draft board graphic on our YouTube channel. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podc

On the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot joins Dan Labbe for one final check-in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Before Mary Kay catches her flight back to Ohio, she breaks down everything we learned from Browns coach Todd Monken during his media breakfast. The burning question on everyone's mind: What is the exact plan for the Browns' quarterback competition? Mary Kay and Dan discuss Monken’s strong hints that Shedeur Sanders might get the first crack at QB1 reps over Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel. They also dive into why off-season face time with the new coaching staff is critical. While Shedeur has been a regular in the building, building a rapport, Watson has only met Monken once and Gabriel has yet to make an appearance. With a completely new offensive scheme and a massive learning curve ahead this off-season, is the starting job truly up for grabs? Plus, get the hilarious behind-the-scenes scoop on exactly why Todd Monken accidentally missed the annual

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe, Mary Kay checks in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Dan and Mary Kay break down the latest updates directly from Jimmy Haslam regarding the Browns' highly anticipated quarterback competition. They discuss Haslam's effusive praise for Deshaun Watson. Is the former "big swing and a miss" poised to finally be a home run for the Browns? They discuss Watson's physical condition, his ongoing recovery from multiple Achilles surgeries and why he might currently have the inside track to be the starter on opening day. They also talk about Shedeur Sanders' physical advantages, his renewed commitment to NFL excellence and the steep learning curve both quarterbacks face as they adapt to Todd Monken’s entirely new offensive scheme. Will Watson's veteran experience provide the necessary mental edge, or will Sanders' youthful resilience win out? Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot checks in from the NFL Annual Meeting in Phoenix to break down a very busy first day of news. Mary Kay and Dan Labbe dive into Browns GM Andrew Berry’s availability, where he firmly shut down recent trade speculations surrounding superstar defensive end Myles Garrett. Berry purposefully called Garrett a "career Brown," and Mary Kay provides insight into why the front office remains fully committed to keeping their core championship-caliber defense intact. Next, the conversation shifts to the quarterback room. Mary Kay unpacks the Browns' draft due diligence on developmental prospects like Ty Simpson and Garrett Nussmeier. Plus, they explore how the wide-open quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders might play out in new head coach Todd Monken’s system. Finally, get a preview of what's to come later this week in Arizona, including Jimmy and Dee Haslam's upcoming availability and Todd Monken’s next opportun

The Orange and Brown Talk podcast kicks off the 2026 NFL Draft season as Dan Labbe reunites the draft crew, Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. This episode features dueling big boards, where Tim and Lance go head-to-head, unveiling their Top 10 prospects in a back-and-forth format. While both experts agree that Ohio State safety Caleb Downs is the consensus No. 1 player, the boards branch off from there. The episode also includes the usual tangents: Should the Browns select the best player available if Downs falls to them at pick No. 6, or is it more critical to trade down and address significant offensive needs like left tackle and wide receiver? They get into other top-tier talents, including versatile linebacker Arvell Reese, explosive playmaker Jeremiyah Love and top quarterback prospect Fernando Mendoza. They break down the strengths and weaknesses of the premier offensive linemen and wide receivers in the class, comparing players like Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon, Francis Mauigoa, and Monroe Freeling.

The Browns have been busy this offseason, completely remaking their offensive line. On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe welcomes Lance Reisland to break down all the moves. Lance dives into the film on the new additions, including right tackle Tytus Howard, guard Zion Johnson and the versatile Elgton Jenkins. They start by looking back at what went wrong with the line last season, from injuries and a lack of identity to the ongoing quest to replace Bill Callahan. Lance explains how this new group differs from the maulers of the past, focusing more on technique, leverage and savvy play rather than pure brute force. He discusses the importance of availability and how these new players bring a different, more functional approach to the trenches. They discuss the impact of new offensive line coach George Warhop and why his veteran experience is crucial. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating who the Browns might target if they decide to take a tackle at pick No. 6 or a guar

On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the latest Browns buzz, including former receiver Jarvis Landry. Landry's recent podcast comments about his time in Cleveland and former coach Kevin Stefanski have stirred up debate. Mary Kay provides context to the 2021 season and the dynamics in the building. They also get into the upcoming NFL Draft. With Ohio State continuing to produce elite receivers, should that success influence the Browns to draft Carnell Tate at No. 6? They discuss the increasing value of top-tier receivers on rookie contracts. The draft talk naturally leads to the quarterback position. Should the Browns give Shedeur Sanders the starting job to see what they have, or could a prospect like Alabama's Ty Simpson be a surprise pick? They break down the potential quarterback battle between Sanders and Deshaun Watson and what it means for the franchise moving forward. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the second wave of the Browns' free agency moves. Mary Kay runs down the list of recent additions, including defensive linemen Kalia Davis and A.J. Epenesa, and they analyzes what these depth signings signal about the team's overall strategy. The discussion then shifts to the bigger picture. With a Super Bowl-caliber defense, are the Browns making a mistake by not being more aggressive to add offensive firepower? They debate whether the team is being wisely pragmatic or potentially wasting a prime window. They explore the wide range of possible outcomes for the upcoming season, the impact of the salary cap and the front office's apparent shift to a draft-and-develop philosophy. Finally, they break down the Browns' unique proposal to the NFL to allow teams to trade draft picks five years into the future. They discuss the NBA-style thinking behind the proposal and how it reflects Andrew Berry's progressive a

On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into four Browns questions. Inspired by March Madness, they debate who would join Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward as the four No. 1 seeds in a 64-player roster bracket. Are the other top players established veterans or impressive rookies? Next, they look into their crystal ball to predict which under-the-radar player will be a major topic of conversation by November. Could it be a speedy receiver or a versatile weapon? They also analyzes the impact of free agency, discussing which departed or potentially departing players the Browns will miss the most. Finally, they try to identify the next fan-favorite cult hero, searching for the player ready to capture the hearts of Browns fans. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down their first impressions of the newest Browns after hearing from them in their introductory press conferences. First, they dive into linebacker Quincy Williams. What did they make of his energetic cheetah mentality and his dynamic personality? They discuss how Williams, with a massive chip on his shoulder after a frustrating final year with the Jets, could thrive in Mike Rutenberg's defensive system. They explore if he could have a career revival similar to other veterans who have joined this defense. Then, the focus shifts to the rebuilt offensive line and new right tackle Tytus Howard. Mary Kay was surprised by his high praise for rookie Shedeur Sanders, especially given his history blocking for Deshaun Watson during his best seasons. The hosts analyze what his comments mean for the quarterback room and discuss the leadership Howard and Elgton Jenkins will bring to this new line. Finally, they loo

The Browns hold the No. 6 pick in the NFL Draft, but their decision might not be as straightforward as it looks. On this Hey Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe cover everything from the Browns’ NFL Draft, to quarterback plans and the offseason program. Will Andrew Berry go offense or defense with the No. 6 pick? While a tackle or receiver seems like the logical choice, could a top-rated defensive player like Caleb Downs or Arvell Reese be too good to pass up? They discuss the unpredictability of the Browns' front office and the very real possibility of trading down to acquire future assets, especially with an eye on next year's quarterback class. The conversation then shifts to the revamped offensive line. With Tytus Howard confirming he's the right tackle, what does the future hold for Dawand Jones? They also break down the versatility of players like Elgton Jenkins and the ongoing questions at center and guard. Plus, they get into the quarterback c

The Browns introduced three of their free agent signings on Friday in Zoom calls with local reporters. Linebacker Quincy Williams, guard/center Elgton Jenkins and guard Zion Johnson all answered questions from reporters. On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to edited versions of those press conferences, featuring the best of what the three had to say and more. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into questions from Football Insider subscribers following the first wave of free agency. They start by analyzing the Browns' revamped offensive line. While PFF grades for the new additions may be concerning, Mary Kay and Dan explain why the collective fit is more important than individual ratings and discuss how Joel Bitonio’s pending retirement decision impacts the team’s plans. The conversation then shifts to the pivotal quarterback situation. They explore the ideal scenario for the Browns: Shedeur Sanders seizing the starting role and proving he’s the franchise quarterback, a “lottery ticket” outcome that would solve many future problems. This is contrasted with the complicated decisions the team would face if Deshaun Watson returns to form. Finally, they look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating whether the Browns will take the best player available at pick No. 6. They discuss which positions the team vi

The new league year is here, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the latest Browns moves on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by grading Andrew Berry's aggressive overhaul of the offensive line, analyzing the additions of players like Tytus Howard and Zion Johnson. Did the GM ace his biggest offseason assignment? The crew then shifts to the remaining needs on offense, debating whether the Browns have done enough to improve their weapons. They discuss the state of the wide receiver room and whether the team can rely on its current players, like Jerry Jeudy and Ced Tillman, to step up under new head coach and play-caller Todd Monken. The quarterback situation is also a hot topic, as they explore the likelihood of the Browns entering the season with a competition between Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson. Finally, they provide an important update on Joel Bitonio, explaining why the veteran guard has earned the right to take his time with his retirement deci

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back to recap Day 2 of free agency on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, an episode that went off the rails in the best way possible. They start by diving deep into the Browns' offensive line rebuild, analyzing the new additions of Elgton Jenkins and re-signing of Teven Jenkins. They discuss what the starting five might look like and what these moves could mean for Joel Bitonio's future with the team. Then, in a wild turn of events, major NFL news breaks mid-recording. Listen to their real-time reaction as they learn that the Baltimore Ravens have backed out of the blockbuster trade for Maxx Crosby due to a failed physical. They break down the immediate implications for the Raiders, the Ravens and the potential domino effect across the entire league as free agency continues. The episode wraps up with a look at the Browns' pass-catchers and whether the team still needs to make a significant addition to the receiver room. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the action from Day 1 of the NFL's legal tampering period on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The Browns made two significant moves, signing former Chargers guard Zion Johnson and Jets linebacker Quincy Williams. We get into how both players fit, with a special focus on Williams' connection to new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg and how Johnson brings much-needed durability to the offensive line. We also discuss how the Williams signing came together after the Browns lost Devin Bush to the Bears. But what about the moves the Browns didn't make? Should they have been more aggressive in pursuing quarterback Malik Willis, who landed in Miami? We debate whether passing on Willis was a mistake. Plus, the wide receiver room is still a question mark. Is a trade for Jacksonville's Brian Thomas a realistic possibility? We look at Andrew Berry's history of trading for receivers and what the team might do next to add weapons to the offens

On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the Browns' latest offseason move: the annual restructuring of Deshaun Watson's contract. They explain why this was a necessary bookkeeping move to get under the salary cap and how it frees up money for free agency. The crew discusses how this strategy, while common for teams with high-priced quarterbacks, stings more when you haven't gotten elite performance in return. With new cap space, the focus shifts to the quarterback position. Should the Browns make a bold, aggressive run at free agent Malik Willis, a player they nearly drafted in 2022? The hosts debate the pros, cons and potential price tag. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, breaking down the early top-30 visit from Alabama QB Ty Simpson. They analyze his connection to offensive coordinator Todd Monken and where he could land in the draft. Plus, they discuss another key visitor, top wide receiver prospect Carnell Tate,

On this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back in Berea to break down the introductory press conferences for the Browns' new coordinators. First up: Defensive Coordinator Mike Rutenberg, who lived up to his high-octane reputation. They discuss his energetic, emotional style, his philosophy of playing violent football and the invaluable addition of veteran coach Dom Capers to his staff. They analyze how Rutenberg plans to follow the tough act of Jim Schwartz by focusing on relationship-building. Next, they turn to new Offensive Coordinator Travis Switzer. They explore his complementary role to head coach and play-caller Todd Monken, his expertise in the run game and the coaching staff's belief that a new system can elevate players like Jerry Jeudy. They also get into the quarterback situation, the team's public support for Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders and whether a big move could still happen. Finally, they touch on new Special Teams Coordin